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Her Daughter's Dream (Marta's Legacy)
by Francine Rivers
Hardcover : 592 pages
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Introduction
In the dramatic conclusion to the New York Times best seller Her Mother's Hope, Francine Rivers delivers a rich and deeply moving story about the silent sorrows that can tear a family apart and the grace and forgiveness that can heal even the deepest wounds.
Growing up isn't easy for little Carolyn Arundel. With her mother, Hildemara, quarantined to her room with tuberculosis, Carolyn forms a special bond with her oma Marta, who moves in to care for the household. But as tensions between Hildie and Marta escalate, Carolyn believes she is to blame. When Hildie returns to work and Marta leaves, Carolyn and her brother grow up as latchkey kids in a world gripped by the fear of the Cold War.
College offers Carolyn the chance to find herself, but a family tragedy shatters her newfound independence. Rather than return home, she cuts all ties and disappears into the heady counterculture of San Francisco. When she reemerges two years later, more lost than ever, she reluctantly turns to her family to help rebuild a life for her and her own daughter, May Flower Dawn.
Just like Carolyn, May Flower Dawn develops a closer bond with her grandmother, Hildie, than with her mother, causing yet another rift between generations. But as Dawn struggles to avoid the mistakes of those who went before her, she vows that somehow she will be a bridge between the women in her family rather than the wall that separates them forever.
Spanning from the 1950s to present day, Her Daughter's Dream is the emotional final chapter of an unforgettable family saga about the sacrifices every mother makes for her daughter--and the very nature of unconditional love.
Excerpt
Hildemara lay in the darkness, her nightgown damp withperspiration. Night sweats again— she should be used to them by
now. Her roommate, Lydia, snored softly. Lydia had been steadily
improving since she arrived six weeks ago, which only served to
depress Hildemara more. Lydia had gained two pounds; Hildie
lost the same amount.
Two months and still no improvement, hospital bills mounting
daily, crushing Trip’s dreams beneath their weight. Her husband
came each afternoon. He’d looked so tired yesterday, and no
wonder when he had to work full- time and then go home and
take care of all her duties: laundry, cooking, seeing to Charlie’s
and Carolyn’s needs. Hildie grieved over her children— Charlie on
his own so much of the time, Carolyn being raised by an indifferent
babysitter. She hadn’t touched or seen her children since Trip
brought her to the hospital. She missed them so much, she felt
physical pain most of the time. Or was that just the mycobacterium
tuberculosis consuming her lungs and decimating her body?
Pushing the covers back, Hildie went to the bathroom to rinse her face with cool water. Who was that gaunt, pale ghost staring
back at her in the mirror? She studied the sharp angles, the pallor,
the shadows beneath her hazel eyes, the lackluster brown color of
the hair around her shoulders.
I’m dying, Lord, aren’t I? I haven’t enough strength to fight this
disease. And now I have to face Mama’s disappointment in me. She
called me a coward last time. Maybe I am giving up. She cupped
water in her hands and pressed her face into it. Oh, God, I love Trip
so much. And Charlie and sweet little Carolyn. But I’m tired, Lord, so
very tired. I’d rather die now, than linger and leave a legacy of debt.
She’d told Trip as much last week. She only wished she could
die at home, rather than in a sterile hospital room twenty miles
away. His face had twisted in anguish. “Don’t say that. You’re not
going to die. You have to stop worrying about the bills. If your
mother came, I could bring you home. Maybe then . . .”
She’d argued. Mama wouldn’t come. She’d never helped before.
Mama hated the very idea of being a servant. And that’s exactly
what she’d be— a full- time maid and washerwoman, babysitter
and cook, without pay. Hildie said she couldn’t ask such a thing
of Mama.
Trip called Mama anyway, and then he went down on Saturday
with Charlie and Carolyn so he and Mama could talk things over.
He’d come out this morning. “Your mother said yes. I’m taking
a couple of days off to get things ready for her.” He wanted to
repaint Carolyn’s room, buy a nice, comfortable bed, a new dresser
and mirror, maybe a rocking chair. “Charlie and Carolyn will have
the small bedroom. You and I’ll be together. . . .”
“I can’t sleep with you, Trip. I need to be quarantined.” She
could barely absorb the news that Mama had agreed to help. “I
can’t be near the children.” At least, she could hear them; she could
see them. Mama said she’d come. Mama was moving in. Hildie
trembled, taking it all in. She felt a little sick to her stomach. “I’ll
need a hospital bed.” She gave Trip instructions about her room.
No rug. A window shade rather than curtains. The simpler the
room, the easier to keep sanitized. Trip looked so hopeful, it broke her heart. He leaned down to kiss her forehead before he left.
“You’ll be home soon.”
Now, she couldn’t sleep. Rather than get back into bed, Hildie
sat in a chair by the window and looked out at the stars. What was
it going to be like, having Mama living under her roof, taking care
of her, taking care of her children, taking care of all the chores that
needed to be done so Trip didn’t have to do everything? Would
Mama despise her for not fighting harder? Her eyes burned; her
throat ached just thinking about having to lie in bed sick and
helpless while Mama took over her family. She wiped tears away.
Of course, Mama would do it all better than she ever could. That
realization hurt even more. Mama had always managed everything.
Even without Papa, the ranch ran like a well- oiled machine. Mama
would fix Trip wonderful meals. Mama would be the one to give
Charlie wings. Mama would probably have Carolyn reading before
she turned four.
I should be grateful. She cares enough to come and help. I didn’t
think she did.
When the night air had cooled her, Hildie slipped beneath the
covers again.
She wanted to be grateful. She would say thank you, even as she
had to watch the life she loved slip away from her. She had fought
hard to be free of Mama’s expectations, to claim her own life and
not live out her mother’s impossible dreams. Even the one thing at
which she’d excelled would be stripped from her before she closed
her eyes for the last time.
Mama would be the nurse. Mama would carry the lantern.
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Discussion Questions
From the publisher:1. Both Hildie and Trip miss some obvious signs that something traumatic has happened to Carolyn. What are they? Later, in chapter 4, when Hildie and Trip argue about Hildie’s going back to work, Trip says, “A little girl shouldn’t be alone so much. Things could happen.” Discuss the irony in that statement. What is it about their family dynamics that makes Carolyn vulnerable to a predator like Dock?
2. Do you think Hildie’s character changes from book 1 to book 2? If so, how does she change and why? Did you like her more or less in this book?
3. Carolyn runs away—literally and figuratively—after getting the news of her brother’s tragic death. Is that a realistic response? Why or why not? Have you ever wished you could run away from a painful reality? How did you deal with it? Have you ever been in the place of Carolyn’s parents and grandmother—not knowing the whereabouts of someone you love? What was that like? What advice would you give someone who is facing such a situation?
4. When Carolyn meets Mary in Golden Gate Park, Mary says she felt an impulse to make extra sandwiches that morning, even though she had no idea why. Have you ever felt God nudging you to do something you didn’t understand? Did you follow through on that impulse? Why or why not?
5. After Carolyn comes home following her two-year disappearance, neither Hildie nor Trip presses her for details about what happened. Do you think that is wise? How does this both help and hurt Carolyn? In your own life, how can you balance being nosy with being concerned for those you love?
6. When Carolyn graduates from college and pays off her debt to her parents, Trip and Hildie give the money back to her. Were you surprised by Trip and Hildie’s action? Why or why not? Why is it hard for Carolyn to accept their gift? Have you ever given or received an unexpected, extravagant gift? What was the motivation behind it? What was the response?
7. For many years, Carolyn finds more appealing fellowship and support in AA than she does in the church. Why is that? What does that say about AA? about the church? What finally changes Carolyn’s view of Christians? Do you know anyone who has a negative view of the church? What could you say or do to encourage that person to give the church another chance? What other influences does God bring into Carolyn’s life to show her the truth of His love for her?
8. Near the end of the story, Hildie reflects that God sent Mitch to rescue her, just as he had rescued Carolyn years earlier. In what ways does Mitch “rescue” Carolyn? How might her life have been different if she had never married? if she had married someone less understanding and supportive?
9. Marta’s choice not to move to Jenner by the Sea with Hildie and Trip seems to finally make the gap between mother and daughter so wide it can’t be crossed. Why does Hildie think Marta doesn’t want to move in with them? What does Marta really want? Why are they unable to discuss it rationally?
10. In chapter 30, when Dawn and Carolyn go to visit Marta for a week, Marta says that “making things easier on your children is sometimes the worst thing you can do.” Do you agree or disagree? How do you see this illustrated in the story? in your own life?
11. How does Marta change over the course of the two books? What changes her the most? In what ways is she still the same?
12. When Dawn confesses to her mother that she slept with Jason, Carolyn’s response is gracious and nonjudgmental. How do Carolyn’s own experiences play into her response to Dawn? How would you respond to such a confession from your son or daughter? How would you like to respond?
13. How does Dawn’s experience of the church after she sleeps with Jason differ from Carolyn’s experience after returning from Haight-Ashbury? Why is it different? How does Paster Daniel’s gracious response affect Dawn’s future and her walk with Christ? Have you ever been in a position to counsel someone who has made a mistake they think cannot be forgiven? What did (or would) you say?
14. Near the end of the story, Dawn makes an important decision that affects the life of her unborn child. How might her struggle with miscarriage and infertility have affected her decision? What would you have done in Dawn’s place? Discuss her choice not to talk about it with either her husband or her family. Was that the right way to handle it? Why or why not? How do you think Jason felt when he learned what had happened?
15. In chapter 55, Dawn reads this excerpt from Marta’s journal: “We try to do a little better than the previous generation and find out in the end we’ve made the same mistakes without intending.” How do you see this illustrated in the story? How have you seen negative behaviors easily turn into a habit in your own life, as Hildie mentions in chapter 56?
16. When the three generations (Hildemara, Carolyn, and May Flower Dawn) finally sit down to talk, they discuss many of their “family secrets.” Discuss the revelations and the effect of finally getting them out into the open. Are you satisfied with what they talk about and how it goes? In what way do you wish it had been handled differently? Are the responses realistic and/or what you expected?
17. At one point, Marta tells Dawn that people either weigh you down or give you wings. How do some of the characters in this saga give people wings? What can you do in your own relationships to give those you love wings instead of weighing them down?
18. While Scripture makes it clear that children are not held responsible for their parents’ sins (see Ezekiel 18:20), it’s also true that destructive patterns tend to continue in families and have a negative impact on successive generations (see Exodus 20:5). Over the span of these two novels, what relationship patterns are repeated between mothers and daughters? between grandmothers and granddaughters? In what ways are the patterns finally broken? Is the resolution realistic? What relationship patterns—either negative or positive—have occurred in your family? If the patterns are negative, what have you done or what could you do to break them?
19. Are there secrets in your family—either from generations past or from the present? To whom would you like to talk about these secrets? What kind of response do you think you would get? What response would you hope for?
20. This novel contains many relationships, conversations, rifts, and moments of reconciliation. Take a few minutes to list some of your favorite scenes and tell why you were especially touched or challenged by them.
Notes From the Author to the Bookclub
Note from the author: Dear Book Club Member, When I was in my early twenties, my mother and grandmother went through a very difficult transition. When Mom and Dad retired, they made plans to sell their home, property and the small cottage they had built where Grandma lived, then build another home in Oregon. Grandma didn’t want to move, Mom and Dad couldn’t afford to stay in California. Grandma was to live with my aunt until Mom and Dad completed the house in Oregon and then move north. When the time came, Grandma refused. Though Mom continued to extend invitations, Grandma never saw the house in Oregon. Mom and Dad made the long trip to the Central Valley to visit her, but Grandma never changed her mind. I often wondered if other issues unrelated to Mom caused the rift. After numerous pleas, Grandma finally wrote a very brief autobiographical sketch of her life for me. What she shared sparked my imagination and inspired the character Marta, while Mom inspired Hildemara. Both novels – Her Mother’s Hope and Her Daughter’s Dream – are two halves to the whole story of four generations of mothers and daughters who learn through pain and hardship to reach out to one another. Secrets must be revealed before healing begins and new patterns can be passed down to the next generation. Truth and faith can turn tragedy into triumph. My prayer is that these two books will encourage mothers and daughters to talk about the events which shaped their lives, to forgive and extend grace wherever possible and fan the fire of faith so it burns bright through all generations. Francine RiversBook Club Recommendations
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